Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: You are listening to a special episode of Better Blood Sugars with Delaine MD welcome to Better Blood Sugars with Delaine MD where you can learn strategies to lower your blood sugars and improve your overall health. I'm your host, Dr. Delaine Vaughn. Ladies, if you know you're capable of doing badass things at work and for your family, but you're confused and frustrated with why you can't seem to stop eating the chocolate cake, this podcast is for you. Let's talk.
Okay. We are here with Heidi today. She has agreed to do an interview about what it's like to work with me and to really work on your type 2 diabetes. I think most women have an idea of what it will be like, and most women, lots of times we don't even see this coming, and so we didn't even know in our middle Ages that we were going to be hit with this. And so I wanted to get firsthand experience. So, Heidi, welcome to the podcast.
[00:00:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, girl. Thanks. Appreciate it. I love you. I'm thankful to chat with you.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, thank you. I'm so glad. I'm so glad that you came into my world. So I want to start with kind of what your health journey, like, where did you start, what your health journey has looked like for you.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: So I think it's. I think it's really good to take inventory on these things, and I don't think that we do that often enough in all the categories of our life, body, soul, and spiritual. And so just a. Just a quick cursory recap of. I am 49. I'll be 50 in a couple months, and I've got five kids. And looking back, like, I was a young, fit girl, went to college. Like, I was size 0, size 2 all my life. I was always 8. I. I had the curse, right? I could eat whatever I wanted, probably like you. I could eat anything I wanted. Didn't matter. Never gained weight by looking back. Like, I had endometriosis. I had chemo to get that removed, and I was on depo Lupron for six months. And they were like, you probably won't have kids for quite a while. That didn't happen. I got pregnant right after my last shot, and that was at, like, 20. Like I said, it was 20, 26, 27 when that all happened. But, you know, looking back, I was sick a lot. I would get the flu. I'd have chronic sinus infections.
So I remember, like, when I was in college, I very much got interested in holistic medicine and, you know, just Started thinking about that stuff because all of my life growing up, I had access to all food, any food, any ultra processed food that I wanted. I never had a limit. I could eat whatever I wanted so I could have. If I was craving ice cream, I could eat whatever I wanted. And you know, I didn't have that. My. My grandparents raised me.
They weren't bad. They were just trying to provide and I think felt like we have food eat. And definitely in the 80s, we did not know. We did not know. Right? Yeah, it was. I was using the deep fryer girl to make fries and deep fry my chicken and like all of the things. So, you know, so looking back and seeing all of those things going on in my life.
Got married, was still thin, we had kids. I had my first large baby. My first child was 9lbs 3oz. Thought nothing of it. I thought I was like a warrior. Like, dude.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: Look at me.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: Tell me what. Tell me what you told me about you.
[00:03:39] Speaker B: Dude. I don't even know.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: You said Heidi has big babies. That's what you're like.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: My smallest baby was 8 pounds 11 ounces. That was my second and my largest child. My last one, he was 12 pounds something. And I did. Right, right. And I did, I did all the gestational diabetes thing. I do remember one time they were like, yeah, let's do this again. But never was I ever told anything that there was any warning. Nothing. It was hush on all of it. So probably I started recognizing after my third child, which is in 2008, the weight wasn't falling off as quickly. And I was like, huh, that's weird. And so I don't even know how old I was, 33 or something. And I just thought, h. You know, while I am aging and they talk about baby fat staying on, like. Right. All this nonsense. But I also had in my head, which is a myth, it's a lie.
Slow metasm, fast metabolism. And I just always thought like, oh yeah, my metabolism is fast. And that's just how I am. And so that's why I can eat whatever I want. And it's just caught up to me. Right.
And so that was my belief system and my operating system for a very, very long time.
And then after I had all of my children and I just started to like, I got up to 160 pounds, which wasn't like, I don't know, size six, size eight wasn't horrible. But it was on 120 that I was used to.
[00:05:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: And so that. Right. And so I started like doing Some things. And started. I had no diabetes, was not on my radar at all. But I was definitely diabetic.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: Didn't know it. So I remember asking my. My ob because I never went to the doctor, because I. I remember asking my ob, I think, my fourth child. I was like, you know, when I eat gluten, I was eating organic, right?
When I eat pasta, when I eat. I was. So I was identifying things that were starting to trigger me, and it was. It was carbs, but I was identifying wheat. I was identifying gluten because I'd been learning a lot about that stuff. And I was like, gosh, you know, when I eat pasta or these things, I get really tired, and I feel like my blood is really slow. Like, I feel lethargic. And I couldn't. That was the only thing I could articulate. And they were like, you're fine. You're just pregnant. Like, you're tired. And I was like, no. Like, in my. Like, in my soul, I don't feel right. I feel off.
And so I live like that for the next 12 years, I guess. Not really.
[00:06:37] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: Having an idea, right? Isn't that everybody. Isn't that what everybody feels like? I feel.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: I think we all do. We're all like. And we tell the story.
[00:06:47] Speaker B: And my.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: I can remember my mom being like, girl, you're getting older. And I'm like, no. And that's what people, the society, everybody, and even doctors will be like, well, you're getting older, right?
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes.
So it wasn't until about five years ago that I was like, well, I guess I'll go get a physical and, you know, start doing that thing. And I. I do remember thinking, like, well, you know, maybe.
Maybe, maybe, because I was having symptoms. Like, I was having edema, and my ankles were swelling, and, like, it was so bad. One time, my wedding ring, I had to go get it sawed off my finger. It. My hand had swollen so bad and so quickly. It was. It was horrible. I had my. My husband inscribed scripture into my wedding ring, and I had to have it sawed off and melted. It breaks my heart, but. But so things were starting to come together where I was like, oh, something's up. And then. So when I went to the doctor, that was in summer of 2019, the blood work came back that my.
My A1C was almost 13. It was like 12.8.
Dude. I've been living like that for a long time because I know what it feels like now. I've probably been living at 12, living on the edge of 12, 13. Right.
Probably five years.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Had no clue that I was diabetic.
[00:08:26] Speaker A: And for anybody who's listening that doesn't know somehow, some way, you don't know what a normal A1C is, the doctors and. And I would always offer that I actually like that optimal A1C is actually lower than this, but the Doctors want a 5.6 or less below 5.7, so that 13 is. Well, double over that normal range.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: Ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And all I could equate it to was I didn't feel really good. I was feeling depressed.
You know, the weight was.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: You could equate it to. Meaning that what you could do. You feel like the not feeling well on the. Like, feeling depressed was adding to the things that led to the A1C being that high. Or do you feel like that was the symptom that you were experiencing?
[00:09:11] Speaker B: Like, I think it was both. I think it was both. Because I think there were some things like that I wasn't.
Relationships that I wasn't being vocal about having a hard time navigating. Right. Some of that kind of stuff. And. And so it just manifested. And I don't know. And then I was just eating. I mean, gosh, I was having ice cream several times a week, like, just whatever. Because I was operating off the premise of all my life I could eat whatever I wanted. And it wasn't like I never.
[00:09:42] Speaker A: Metabolism.
[00:09:43] Speaker B: I have a high. Yeah. And it wasn't like I never ate steak. It's not like I never ate vegetables. I loved all that. And I would have great salads, and I would do. But I just didn't get the carb thing. So.
So 2019, I found out. And then I was like, okay, screw that. That's not true. I went into the five stages. Right. That's not me. That's not what's happening. Totally denied it. And I was like, f all of y'all. I didn't go on any medication. They were like, you need to be medicated now. And I was like, no.
And so I still dealt with it. And so then I, like, started praying about it. I was like, okay, Father, like, I need to educate myself because I don't understand. I genuinely did not understand. I thought that. And I'm not.
I'm not saying that to be mean. I'm not.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: But you were never at a place where you're like, I'm obese.
[00:10:39] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: I wasn't any of that. So it didn't even. Like, how does that happen? I just did not know Intellectually, I did not know. And so I started praying about it. I was like, okay, God, like, I need to know how this all works, because I'm fully at a loss. And I. I learned. I don't. I don't know if I should say which group, but I had found a group that was like, okay, don't eat meat and no fat and just be vegetarian. And I was like. So I started listening. So I was like, I don't know. So maybe.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Maybe this is it.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe this fit. But didn't feel right. It didn't for me. For me, Right. Didn't feel right. And so, like, I tried. And that was, like, my first time of, like, trying to, like, cut stuff out, right. Food, cut carbs out. And I still didn't really understand what a carb was. Like, it's so silly. Now is like, you know, my kids, my. Even my youngest, he'll be like, mom, you got to have your protein first.
This is working. Yeah.
So I went through all these things, and I started, you know, I started cutting things out, started cutting the carbs out and being more, like, vegetarian, and I love meat, and that was really difficult. And living life without.
And you couldn't have dairy. It was just so restrictive. And I was like, gosh, I, I. This is not sustainable. And then I did keto for a while, and I was feeling really great, and that was really good. And I had gone back in, and my A1C had been coming down. I think it was, like, at 10. And then I was working. I had gotten it down to, like, seven. Without medication, I hadn't done anything. And then I don't know, something.
I. I don't know what happened. Life happened. And then I was like, screw all of it. Like, I'm gonna just go back to. However I was navigating before.
And I went back to the doctor. I think maybe it was two years later, and I wouldn't go back to the doctor because I was afraid, of course.
[00:12:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Right. I was afraid. And so it was actually this year, it was in April. I was like, heidi, you need to. Dude, you're gonna die. Because I was starting to feel neuropathy.
[00:13:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: And I was scared to death.
And so I went. And it was 12.7.
[00:13:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: It was 300 and something.
Just like.
And the next day, I was like, God, like, I. I don't know, dude.
And the next day, I just cut everything. I just cut everything. And I just ate. I just did keto the best that I could, and so I did that. So so this is getting to lead up to you. So, like, I thought that I was, like, gluten intolerant. I thought me, you know, I was certain I had leaky gut. And those things were true. Absolutely.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: Possibly, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Like, definitely had stuff going on.
So I was doing all this. I had met with a dietitian. I was. I was doing that for a bit, and it just wasn't help because they don't know. They. They don't know. They don't know.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: So this is one of the questions that I have for you is what was the information? Like, what did you believe was the issue? It sounds like you believed something about carbs were the issue and maybe the gluten was an issue, and it probably was. But of course, I love, like, what. What did the doctors tell you? And I am the doctor. I'm not bagging anybody. But I'm just telling you I know what we're taught. And, yeah, it doesn't fix it. So what were you told was what you needed to do to fix it by then?
[00:14:29] Speaker B: So it was definitely. So in April, you know, the guy was like, look, you have got to go on medication. You have to be. You have got to go on metformin. And I was like, well, I don't want to. And I. And I didn't. And he was like, that's insane. Why wouldn't you do that? I was like, well, why do I need to do that? He was like, because you're clearly not managing it on your own. Like, he was.
And I get it, you know, but I was like, no. And I just. And I had educated myself so much within this five year period of time where I was like. And I was googling how to reverse diabetes. Well, even five years ago, do you know how difficult it was to find anything that said that you can. I know, because the belief system is.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: Can't the medicine. And this is kind of the. I mean, like, as you're saying what your. Your doctor is like, you're not managing it. That is a stud. Leaps and bounds ahead of many doctors, which are like, oh, you don't need to do anything. It's in your genes. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: That was. Coupled with that. Definitely coupled with that.
[00:15:35] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because most of them. And you're right. Five years ago, that's what you would have been told. Absolutely.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Definitely. Definitely. Um, you know what's crazy is the same year my dad told me, it was the same month my dad found out that he was also diabetic. Now he's 20 some years older than I am. So it caught up. He just. However, I'm sure he was diabetic for a long time. Yeah, right.
So. So I didn't do any. I didn't do any drugs. I definitely, like, I stopped. I wasn't drinking constantly, but I was enjoying. Stopped any wine. I just cut out things that I knew were not okay. So nothing ultra processed. If I. I just ate fruits, vegetables, you know, the keto that you learn good fats. Like, that's what I was eating. And I went back three months later, or. No, I went back a month later.
I went back a month later and it was down to 11.2. And he was like, what did you do?
I was like, I just cut out carbs and I'm just doing keto and I'm exercising. And he was like. I mean, he was flabbergasted. He was like, okay, I still think you should be on Metformin. And I. And if you don't want to or. By that time, I had tried the Metformin for a couple days and the. The bowel thing was so obnoxious. I just said, no.
He was like, I think you need to do Ozempic or something, Manjaro, whatever. Like, you need to do something else because. Yeah, this is not okay for you.
But not giving me any credence and.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: What you'd already created.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah, within 30 days.
[00:17:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: So then he was like, okay, let's meet back in three months.
Okay. So my grandma. Mom who raised me, adopted me. She died in this period of time while I was out there by her bedside while she died. I was still. And I'm trying to. No, it was a timeline. I found you. So.
[00:17:46] Speaker A: Yeah, because we were working together then.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: We were. And I think I. I hit. So. Okay. So my. And I'm still praying. I'm like, God, you got to show me how to reverse this. I know it's possible, but there's something that. I don't know. There's something. Some things that can be tweaked. I don't know what. I don't know. So I was like, what? What do I do? What do I search? Who is it? There's somebody who can help me. And he. God's just so good with me. He said, check a podcast. And so I checked diabetes in Apple podcast. And I saw a few of them and I listened to some of them and I was like, no, no, no. And then I found you. I think you were the third or fourth one.
I got on your website and I found your two week eating guide.
[00:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: And I was like, oh. So I printed it out and I did that the next day and I was like. And so I had like one or two meals and I just, I, I just stuck to it. And the missing thing that I, that you helped me with is protein. I was not getting enough protein. And so I had called you, I had gone online after I downloaded your guide and I made a discovery call with you. And I think it was like that same day or the next day and I was just like, dude, is this for real? Is this for real? And then I met with you and I was like in love with you.
I was like a real woman who understands what the freak is going on. She's a medical doctor, so she's got, that, she's got the understanding. Right. Of what that training is. And I, I'm not a doctor, but I do understand not a lot of nutrition. Right on in the school, right? Yeah, no and no. And I was blessed that you had dealt with this and had reversed it. And anybody that I had gone to, I'd gone to different people. Like, how do you do this? And well, let's do some herbs and let like it was holistic things, but it was like, let's do this. It wasn't, it wasn't.
Cut out all carbs.
[00:19:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's stop offending our biology. Let's do that for a little bit. Let's see if your body heals and then we can turn to some other things if we need to. And we ended up doing that, right?
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Yes, yes. And so I think when I had met you, it, it was around the same time I was down to like 10 point something. So gone for my three month check down to 10 something. And I started meeting with you and I immediately, like, it was a investment that I was like, dude, I'm going to die. I believe that I'm going to die with my legs cut off or something if I don't get this freaking thing handled. I got five kids.
That ain't my life.
[00:20:39] Speaker A: Not on the table for me. Yeah.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Nope, not gonna happen. And I was just confident that I was, I, I've been confident in a few, some pillars of belief in my life and one of them was that the body would heal itself given the right conditions. So I knew that I knew to be true. I just didn't know what the condition was. And that's where you came in.
And so we started meeting immediately and you helped me tweak and the thing was protein.
And so now I went back, gosh, what. Now I forget what it was. It was 6.4.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah. It was below 7.
[00:21:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: At your last.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it was 6. I think it maybe 6.3. And so that was in November.
And my goal, my goal is to get it under 5.5ish. That's my goal. Doctor wants to see me back in six months. Now, I will say, after discussing with you, I was like, I was trying the berberine.
[00:21:41] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: While. Because I was like, okay, is it going to kill me? Is it going to cause liver damage? Is it going to cut right. All these things? Because I don't want to be taking crap. That's just gonna be another issue.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: Sick. Yeah, yeah.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: Make me sick. Cause so I was doing the berberine and it was great because I was like, look, I gotta tell you something, I'm doing the berberine. And you're like, well, maybe, you know, mean. I loved your response. You're like, well, if you do that, we don't know what's going on with the food. Like, we don't know what's happening. And, and I love one of your things is, you know, keeping a food log. And I was doing that. And I love the app that you recommend. Great app.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Nutrition.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:22:21] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: Is great.
This stuff is not hard.
It's. It's not hard. Like, it's all, it's all mindset stuff. But data is important.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: Yeah. What was your hardest mindset to overcome for you?
[00:22:39] Speaker B: I think the, I think one thing, this idea now I deal with it at times, you know, stress doesn't really get me there. Like, I've overcome comfort eating. I've recognized, okay, I don't comfort eat anymore now I fuel. Right.
[00:23:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:01] Speaker B: Food is fuel. You. Some of the things that you say and you say it in your podcast and your coaching, you say a couple things, but there's only so much real estate in your stomach and protein. If, if you're doing the protein, that's going to take it up.
[00:23:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: Another thing that you teach and you share often, and I hear it every single day in my head, is eat for your biology. You don't see freaking squirrels and giraffes and everything out there consuming what God didn't make for them.
[00:23:28] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: And that's all that I was doing. And I, you know, thinking back, I'd be like, gosh, I didn't eat any fruit or vegetable today. Like when I was not doing eating.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: I didn't eat any God made food for myself today. Not zero zill zero zero.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: And that was haunting. Me. It was haunting me.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: So more than one way? Probably.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah, dude. Yes. Yes.
[00:23:54] Speaker A: So were those two big shifts, like maybe you didn't realize that before, that really, the food that we eat, that's processed just doesn't match our biology.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: It doesn't. It doesn't. It's going to have an effect on you. Some. Some. Some way. Shape or form. You know, one thing. This. This is pretty cool. I was dealing with dry eye or a solitude. I did not know what it was. Did not. I just thought I was going blind. I honestly, I thought I was going blind. And I knew I was diabetic, so.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: I was like, well, that makes sense.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: That makes sense. I'm gonna.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: Diabetics go blind.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: And my, like, my eye, like, I couldn't see when I like. Anyway, it was just severe, severe dry eye. And I'd gone to the doctor and I. They pres. Thank God for it. I mean, fifteen hundred dollars a vial for this prescription I've. I'd gotten. And my insurance helped me pay for it and whatever. But it did help. But you know what? I don't have dry eye anymore.
[00:24:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Why? Because you helped me change my diet?
[00:25:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Because you're not offending your body and setting off all these, you know, autoimmune. Yes. And you probably cleaned up your. That leaky gut we were talking about and all of that. Yes. And the gluten for all of it.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: All of it. So what have I done? What have you helped me with? So I make water, kefir. So I do fermented foods. I add that.
You know, I mean, I would call it keto. I mean, I call it the God diet. It's. I just eat fruits, vegetables, protein. I have raw milk, I make my own cheese and my own kefir and. And my own yogurt and stuff like that. And exercise is, you know, I. I exercise every day. Not. Not as much strength training as I would like. That's always.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: It's always like, like I could work on here. I could work. I did it this morning. My. My morning workout. I was like, I'm calling it good at 20 minutes. I could go on another 10. But I'm calling it good here. Yeah, I think that's always pretty common for some of us. So. Yeah.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: So having big babies.
Yeah, I did it, but it wasn't a sign of health like I thought it was.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: I just have really robust creatures. I grow those children very robustly. That's so funny. Yeah.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: We saw in the back of my head, I was like, dude, my Great grandparents, born and bred in Nebraska.
That just came from the genetic.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: This is how that works.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: Have big babies. No, dude, you have pre diabetes.
And none of that's, you know, like none of my children were diabetic. I nursed all my babies. Like all these things, these natural types of things. Right. I was doing all these things, but I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't know.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: Can you pinpoint any message that you can see looking back from society, from families, from society about what normal food should be.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: What normal food, what society says? Well, I think, I hope that people are up that the, the, the what, what's, what's the term? The jig is up on the American diet.
[00:27:22] Speaker A: The standard American diet. The SAD diet. Yeah.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: The inverted pyramid. Like flip that thing upside down and you'll be much better off. Right?
[00:27:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: So, you know, even. And I will say the dietitian and, and the doctor and it's because they don't, they don't know. It's just what they've learned. They don't experientially know. And working with you is what helped me know. They would say it's no problem to have 60 grams of carbs per meal.
[00:27:49] Speaker A: Per meal.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: Per meal. And when the dietits and told I. I stopped after her. I was like, she does not. No. But I was like, do you understand what would happen to my blood sugar If I consumed 60 grams of carbs in one meal? Doesn't matter if it's beans or from what.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: It doesn't matter if it's carrots. It doesn't matter if it's rice or bread. It doesn't matter. My cells are so sick. They can't handle that kind of a challenge at this point.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: So sick. And that's, I think anyone listening, working with you, having those shifts of understanding, like your cells will heal themselves if you put them in the right condition. It absolutely will work. This isn't. And, and I thought too, like it was some, I don't know, not magic, mythical, blah, blah, blah, like, you know, there's some magic formula to this thing or like diabetes, you know, it's genetic, dude. It. Yeah, it's genetic if everyone in your family eats crap.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, it is genetic. It is the normal expected cellular response when you eat foods that are not meant for your body.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: I love, like passing out is genetic if you hold your breath.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: Well, it's like, you know, it's just you. Once you start to create those parallels like you do.
You could pick a lot of them. If you drink too much alcohol, you're.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Going to damage genetic.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: Yes. Smoking causes lung cancer.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: It's genetic too.
[00:29:27] Speaker B: It's genetic too. Right? Yeah.
And so that's, that's the thing is your body will become diabetic. All bodies, all bodies will become diabetic. If this is, if that is what you feed it. And that to me is the wake up call. And then you turning me on to, you know, good books like the Metabolical. I read Casey means good energy.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: Energy.
[00:29:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: And what the other one. That's. Oh, lies I taught in school.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Lies. I was talking about school.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yes, yes, that one. Total mind shifts that help so much. But you, you come from that operating manual of having that understanding and because you do, coupled with the other things of who you are, you're being a doctor and having that understanding coupled with you healing your body.
You are an amazing coach to work with to, for anybody who wants to for real get this behind them.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: Oh, well, thank you. That means a lot to hear from somebody who's worked with me. I always wonder and I guess I, you know, a question for you. There's, you know, double edged sword here. What was the most disappointing thing that you had to realize? Oh, tell me about it.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: I feel like, you know, because I mean, I'm not blaming you, I'm not faulting you. It was just my body just took more time. Like I, I had an expectation that was not realistic for my body.
I was seeing great.
I was seeing like when I, when I started your just your two week workbook, I lost five pounds in the first week. My blood sugar was not in the 34 hundreds anymore. It was down in 200. Like that was huge for me. Right now it's under a hundred most times.
But I started working with you in July and it's taken five months, six months to get four or five points down. Yeah, a lot of. Just a lot. So just time. Just not being realistic and, and being patient with myself.
[00:31:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: I can remember you being like, my sugars are 270, this is ridiculous. Or 220. And I can remember me having to point out. Yeah, they were 378though, three weeks ago.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: And you're like, no.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: And we're like looking back at the data and you're. Oh, that's. Yeah, but that's where a coach really does come in handy. Your, you know, the, the negativity bias of our brain will point out the negative. It will overemphasize the Negative. And not having that emotional tie to those results.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:32:20] Speaker A: Sometimes that is everything with a coach. They're able to just look at data and be like, actually what we're seeing here. So, yeah. So curiously, what was the most surprising or the most exciting part about this change in your life?
[00:32:33] Speaker B: The. I think a couple things. One, that I can be in control of my life, that I can be in control of what goes in my mouth, that I can tell my brain, dude, you don't need a dopamine hit from sugar. Stop. That's a lie. I mean, like, physiologically, yes, I understand that's a chemical reaction. But I can take a dopamine hit from breathing, from sitting down and relaxing, from having a glass of water with lemon, from drinking my kefir water.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Like, I can get a hug from.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: Your kids picking up my cat. Like, I can get a dopamine hit in a different way. And the reality was that food was controlling me.
And so realizing that, I flipped that on its head. That's pretty satisfying. That's pretty satisfying.
There was something else. What did you ask?
[00:33:29] Speaker A: Most surprising or exciting thing for you?
[00:33:32] Speaker B: The other thing is that now sitting where I am, still want to go. And this is a sustainable thing. It's not like, okay, once I get to five, I'm gonna say, balls to the wall, everyone. You know, let's just binge on everything and just go back to the. No, dude, that's. No, I'm not doing that now. I'm not gonna say that I will never. And how to get over that. I'm not gonna put that on myself.
[00:33:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: And once I lifted that, that never thing, if, if I choose to, I can have a bite of something, it's going to be okay and I can move on or deal with it. But it, you know, I mean, that's even a whole thing. Like, I don't even need to have a bite. But that relationship with food.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: It's gripping. It's great. It is.
[00:34:26] Speaker A: And it's crazy. And for those of us that are like, no, I get done. I'm a type aer. Like, I do things. Why are M M's?
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:34:35] Speaker A: Like, why do I not have control of this? Like, that's the. It's mind boggling. And it's almost like, who is this woman that takes over me in the freaking presence of M M's or chocolate cake?
[00:34:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: Now you get to be that in all the areas and you get to see like, it's, you know, seeing the Kansas kid in me, seeing the wizard behind the curtain, Right. Like, suddenly you see how the mechanics of it work. And you and I know, we've talked about this, right? Like, you will eat a whole box of donuts chasing the first one or two bites. Two or three bites. And now you can see that. So you're like, one or two bites is actually enough.
[00:35:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. I really tried and just not even.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: But yeah, I know. Tis the season, though, we're recording this over the holiday season. So it's like one or two bites of my grandmother's fudge is what I've been making and dealing with lately. And it's just like one or two bites. So I am actually like, okay, New Year's is coming and those will be, you know, I'm packaging up to send it to cousins so they'll be out of the house soon anyway.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: But can I share one last thing?
[00:35:38] Speaker A: I want you to share one last thing. What's the last thing you want to share with ladies?
[00:35:42] Speaker B: I love that you are vulnerable when you show up with any of our coaching group. Whatever it is. You had said that. I just, I mean, I, I, I'm sure you, you shared it or whatever, but you were just talking about how you had had your blood, your blood work done, which I highly recommend to everybody. I think that you can't know genuinely anything unless you get those bio, biomarkers and you have a gauge. It's like, yeah, you just can't, like, that's the thing. Do that. Like, that's a good thing for you to do. But you had made the statement. And I think about all the time, especially if I'm tempted, if I start thinking about, oh, I want to have crap food.
You said that you were having tea or something and you were putting some hot honey.
[00:36:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: Which is not a horrible thing.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: But you saw your numbers jump. Numbers jump. And, and I love what you said. You said, if it's going high, it's not the direction I want.
[00:36:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: And so, you know, it, they're just realizations. Right. It, they're just these flags of like, okay, if I do this, this other thing will absolutely happen.
[00:37:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: There's no, like, mystery about it. Yes.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: There's no, there isn't. There isn't a gene in there that's like, oh, there's no mutation. This is human biology. Yeah, absolutely.
[00:37:20] Speaker B: I love that you bring that to the table for women. It's a game changer.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: It's great.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: And it is, I think, because a lot of times it's such a. And It's a horrible. It's a tragic thing that the medical community does, is telling people. We were so excited in the 80s and the 90s when we could, like, map the human genome and, you know, the genomics and we could find the genes and all of these associated genes, and we were able to, say, match every disease with a gene. And even diabetes, if you look at the genetic associations, there's probably 40 genes. There's many genes. It's not one. Even if you look at something as specific is cystic fibrosis. There's actually four different genes that contribute to cystic fibrosis in varying degrees.
So if you have only one gene, you have a mild form. If you have four out of four genes, you have a much more severe form. So even something as real straightforward as a, you know, recessive, you know, recessively past trait like cystic fibrosis, like, even that, it's not as black and white as we want to believe it is, not as heavily dependent on a gene as we want to believe it is. And I think that. Thank God. Thank God for that, because if I have to change my genes, I'm screwed. Yeah, I don't get to do that. But good news, diabetes, you don't have to change your genes. You will get 90 to 95% of the results you're looking for by changing your diet.
[00:38:49] Speaker B: Amazing.
[00:38:50] Speaker A: The best news that anybody could ever hear. So hallelujah. Exactly. It really is. It really is. And you and I both know we've talked about this. Like, I feel that. I mean, one, this is. This is passion work for me. This is what I feel like my purpose is.
But I also see how this worry of diabetes and this being out of control with food gets in the way of women and what they really find important in life. And for me, I mean, I go back to the Bible verse of, you know, God provides for the lilies of the field. Why would he do any less for us? You. Right. He has provided all of the food that we need.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: Like, that is a promise. And. And if you don't believe in God, that's fine. Think back pre modern when it was just us and the earth. The earth provided everything we needed. And I think that when we can get this processed food out of our brain and out of our bodies, it can allow us to reconnect to those things that are really important, where we really get this more robust life. And that's the true gift. I mean, health is cool, and keeping all your toes and your feet is really nice, but I mean, living a more robust life is just more fun, you know, it's great.
[00:40:02] Speaker B: Static ears are more meaningful with five toes.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: Five toes on each feet, not between the two.
Well, Heidi, I so much appreciate.
[00:40:11] Speaker B: On each feet.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: On each feet. Yeah.
I appreciate you sharing this. I appreciate you spending time.
Any last things you want to add?
[00:40:22] Speaker B: Girl, I want to do what you do. You're. You're my. I love it. I just, I love everything that you do. And anyone who works with you is just going to be blessed and they're going to be healthy and should they choose to. It's not hard work. It's not hard work. It's. I mean, it could be hard work if that's your mindset, but it's not hard work. It's just a decision.
Let's get this plan do. Dude. Anyone? Listen. Download her two week guide eating guide. It's linked everywhere.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: 14 days to better blood sugar.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: 14 days.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: There it is. Do it. Just do it. And even if you pick, look, Delane was like, Heidi, you know, there are other foods besides chicken, sausage and eggs. Like you can have other things. But it was just working. I didn't have to think about it. Even with the death of my, of my grandma, mom, I. You know, it's funny, in a, in a stressful situation like that, I could have said screw it, right? Because that's a serious stressor. And just binged on. What? And I didn't. And that eating that food just held me. It was an anchor. It was an anchor to just everything else falling apart. But this, I.
[00:41:33] Speaker A: This is consistent.
I've got this. Yeah.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: Yeah. So go download that, do that and yes, invest in yourself and work with Delaney.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: I love it. Thank you so much, Heidi. Thank you for being here for all listeners. If you have any questions, don't ever hesitate to reach out to me. Delanemd.com I answer all the emails. If for some reason one slips through, harass me, I'm down with that. I will be back next week. Bye.
